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What is the largest size we can get for a certain space? I am dealing with some large museums and malls and some of them are gigantic, the current project I am dealing with is 26K sqm (260K sqft), So is that possible with one scan? also what is the biggest number of scans possible per model? can we go beyond 300? 500?

please do share your experiences about the largest space size/ scans per model possible?

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  • I can't speak for everyone else's experience, but we recently did a flagship retail store. Ended up with 374 scans on the complete file. Actually scanned about 420, but had to remove several and rescan due to alignment issues. The size wasn't as big as you are talking, but had to get everything in fine detail for the customer and so that we could render a decent OBJ file to manipulate. Uploaded fine, OBJ took some time to clean up though.

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  • Matterport only supports up to 200 scan positions and about 10K sqft. That's not to say it's a hard line, but with out experience larger Spaces may start to show performance issues if they make it through the processing engine. Meaning, it's not just a matter of how many scan positions can Capture on your iPad record, since that has a lot to do with the iPad running it. It also has a lot to do with what can be processed and once processed, how easy is it to navigate the Space in 3D Showcase. If the Space is too large, you run the risk of your clients not being able to view it if they don't have the latest computer hardware.

    The larger the Space beyond 200 scan positions the more limited it is in terms of who can view it.

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  • Hi Amir, why would the size above 200 scans be limited in terms of who can view it? I think the whole restriction is based on the processing engine not the viewer device? so the details of a certain model are downloaded as we navigate thru the model is it? or the whole 200 scans are downloaded the minute we view a model on a website? the size/scans restrictions are not ideal for scenarios beyond real estate? Matterport needs to know that this great technology is being used for larger space (museums, malls, hospitals, schools, university etc)

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  • Older computers will not have the 3D processing power to view very large Spaces. The larger the Space, the more demanding it is of the graphics card, memory and browser.

    While not the entire Space or all the data downloaded when a Space is first loaded, the loaded data is never unloaded. Meaning, as you walk through the Space, it becomes more demanding as more data is loaded and if the computer used to view it is not up to snuff, it will start to become very jerky and an overall less than smooth navigating experience.

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  • I found the model of a school (https://matterport.com/3d-space/central-catholic-stem/) with 4 floors to a total of about 20,000 sq.ft. I don't know the number of scans, but area wise is bigger than 10K sq.ft. maximum you indicate above. I'm asking this because I just sent a quote to a 20K sq.ft school, and quoted based on two models with a link between the two school halves. Please comment!

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  • If we compare a Space with just one scan to being the smallest possible Space and one with 1000 scans to being the largest possible Space, everything in between is a variation of these two extremes. On one side you have a Space that can be scanned with a first generation iPad, most likely, even though we don't support that iPad. On the other side you have a Space that can only be captured using the latest iPad Pro.

    Just about anyone with an internet connection can manage to view a single scan Space, but no one can view one with 1000 scans. Likewise, Workshop will work for anyone who's using a WebGL compatible browser and trying to edit the 1 scan Space, but Workshop will crash for anyone trying to edit the 1000 scan Space.

    200 scans and 10K sqft is what's supported, not because of your iPad's limitations or the limitations of the processing engine, but because as you increase the number of scans, you limit the number of computers and mobile devices that can edit and view your Space. You're certainly welcome to scan a 20K sqft Space, but the number of visitors who will be able to view it will be fewer than those able to navigate a 10K sqft Space.

    The trouble is there's no good way of knowing just how many fewer and if they're even part of the Space's demographics at all.

    With the school, you can always capture everything into a single model in Capture and see if after it's processed can it be easily edited and navigated in 3D Showcase. If not, you can always break up the model data into two models in Capture and create two Spaces from the original.

    I hope that helps.

    - Amir

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  • I'm needing to scan a 64K space, an athletic club.  Much of it is large open spaces, some with machines and or weights, gym and raquetball courts.  Can I use fewer scans, more like 15-20' increments in the gym or other areas without "stuff" to go round?

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  • Hello Karl,

    You should be able to go a little further with large open spaces but probably not as far as 15'-20' in general we recommend going just 8' max. If you go too much further you are more likely to get alignment issues and then you'll have to move back closer to the pervious scan.

    Hope that helps.

    -Maddy

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  • Maddy- what do you suggest as to how I scan this 64K space?  It's only two levels, 80% first floor.  I want to scan the whole space so they can use it to show potential clients how the space flows, or is set up, having the dollhouse view look good.  I also have to shoot this from 10pm to 5am, so I'm not excited to "test" shoot this and not have it work well.  

    Or the Matterport just won't work for this?

     

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  • Karl,

    I think it's likely you'll have to split the gym up into different regions. Have you taken a look at this help document that goes over how to do that? Although it's not as nice as having one big dollhouse the plus side is that you can be sure it will work.

    You may also want to split out the separate rooms of the gym so that at least each room has it's own dollhouse.

    -Maddy

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  • @ Matterport-Amir in your last post in this tread you said:

     

    ''With the school, you can always capture everything into a single model in Capture and see if after it's processed can it be easily edited and navigated in 3D Showcase. If not, you can always break up the model data into two models in Capture and create two Spaces from the original.''

    Can you tell me, how do i split up the data from a scan? 

     

    Thanks!

    Bryan

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  • Is it possible to create two separate spaces with a common scan position and then link them after processing?  This would allow you to chain the spaces together to cover a large project. 

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